The president of Harvard University caused a stir last week when she pledged support for a federal bill that would provide legal residency to some illegal immigrant students.
The Boston Globe reports that President Drew Gilpin Faust’s backing of the Dream Act surprised students and drew criticism from opponents of the act.
In a letter to federal lawmakers, Faust called the legislation a "life line" for some students. The legislation would allow young illegal immigrants a path to legal residency if they attend two years of college or military service. She acknowledged that students with "immigration status issues" attend Harvard.
Last year in North Carolina, the board of the state’s two-year college system stopped a longtime practice of allowing illegal immigrants to enroll at 58 campuses under out-of-state tuition rates.
In a preliminary report, a board consultant said the state could profit from admitting undocumented students because they would pay $1,650 more in tuition than it costs to allow them to attend.
Faust is the latest leader to pledge support for the controversial bill. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano recently told Congress she supports the bill. Last month, the College Board, made up of more than 5,000 colleges and universities, announced its backing of the legislation.
"I believe it is in our best interest to educate all students to their full potential - it vastly improves their lives and grows our communities and economy," Faust wrote in a letter to members of the Massachusetts congressional delegation who support the bill.
Opponents of the legislation, such as the Federation for American Immigration Reform, said Harvard should not admit illegal immigrants because they displace students here legally.
"Maybe the elites at Harvard should come down from their ivory tower and get some ground perspective on what kind of cost and competition that legal U.S. residents are actually incurring these days," said Bob Dane, spokesman for FAIR.
All colleges/universities need to have 3 separate rates for tuition; the lowest for in-state US citizens, a higher one for out-of-state US citizens and the highest for non-US citizens regardless of where they are currently domiciled. End the charades...first of all, colleges are businesses set to make money and second of all, non-US citizens do not merit tuition breaks granted to US citizens of any state.
ReplyDeleteThere is apparently no end to the shameless sucking up by Franco to anyone who thinks it's A-OK to let illegal aliens stay in the US, even though they are here (say it with me now) ILLEGALLY.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure that most members of the liberal intelligentsia support letting illegal aliens attend college, if for no other reason than more students = more money and more power.
Since we're not going to kick them out for breaking the law, hence illegal, then let the illegals attend private colleges only, not taxpayer supported institutions. The problem is that the liberally leaning state supported institutions want to be politically correct and let them in, displacing legal students with better grades to eventually meet some arbitrary quota, just to save face with the liberal population. So, let them pay for private colleges, then as soon as they graduate, hand them a plane ticket and let them make their home country a better place to live.
ReplyDeleteYou sure give Ordonez a hard time. He never posts his opinion. He is simply reporting facts. I think military service should be mandatory not only for illegal immigrants but for all citizens. 2 years then you choose what path you want in life. Either way, if an illegal immigrant is smart enough to attend college then let them do so. From what I've read on these comments in the past, most of you seem to think illegal’s can't speak the language and are barely qualified to do menial labor. So, you shouldn’t be to concerned that they are going to college on your dime.
ReplyDeleteNoone is knocking Franco. He is a good white European Latino who luckily is in the upper rulling class. No problems.
ReplyDeleteAs far as illegal education we agree. We strongly believe the millions of Mexican citizens deserve an eduacation in the nation where they are lifelong citizens.
All peeps should have a good education and illegal immigrants no exception. America needs to pressure the Mexican govt to educate its own citizens without delay because its terrible for them not to do so and the world would be smarter.
Just as America forks out hundreds of billions to educate its own citizens we believe Mexico should do the same for its citzens. Shame on you Mexico if you dont.
Is this any surprise - with the majority of universities being a hotbed for everything liberal?
ReplyDeleteI think that no scholarship money should be used to pay for their education.
ReplyDeleteYou sure give Ordonez a hard time. He never posts his opinion. He is simply reporting facts.He chooses what facts to report, and they are almost always pro-illegal alien. So the facts are basically supporting his opinion.
ReplyDeleteI think military service should be mandatory not only for illegal immigrants but for all citizens.The only thing that should be mandatory for illegal aliens is deportation as soon as they come to the attention of the system.
Either way, if an illegal immigrant is smart enough to attend college then let them do so.In their own country. Not here.
From what I've read on these comments in the past, most of you seem to think illegal’s can't speak the language and are barely qualified to do menial labor. So, you shouldn’t be to concerned that they are going to college on your dime.Are you mental? I am concerned any time any of my tax dollars are used to support the continued existence of illegal aliens in this country.
Typical liberal puke. Is there any other country that allows this? I can't just go enroll in a Mexican University AND STAY THERE. It's like we're asking for illegals to take advantage of our system because we have poor/stupid leadership. We're not talking about immigrants. THEY ARE ILLEGAL. What part of the word is so hard to understand? Other illegal activities get you sent to jail.
ReplyDeleteOh, Franco, I agree.. you seem to have a MAJOR biased trend to your stories. Who do you think you're kidding? People don't like illegals burdening this country.
Read, Privilege: Harvard and the education of the ruling class.
ReplyDeleteThat explains how this President would support something like College for Illegals, that the middle class pays and pays for, yet never get any benefit.
every illegal in college or university or college or community colleege means one less space for a citizen or legal-maby we should outsource her job
ReplyDeleteI have a new idea, people who do agree with allowing illegals into our country should than volunter to take the illegals place in the country they crossed the border from.
ReplyDeleteThat way we get working illegals (lets call them what they really are .... SLAVES because they work cheap,no health insurance or legal recource.Great idea libs reinvented slavery!)anyhow we get cheap illegals to do all our dirty work that Americans getting ready to lose there homes would "never do" (yeh! RIGHT!) and then Mexico or where ever they came from gets MILLIONS of liberals to help tear down any pesky laws or moralities hindering their country from pleasing everyone.
I can live with that.
Between the socialistic agenda, millions of people out of work while millions of illegals grab up any crumbs,I.O.U.'s to China for astronomical amounts,nukes and missles from those threatening to attack us. a empty suit president with a HUGE chip on his shoulder and a court jester for a vice president just wonder when this powder keg is going to get touched off by us or a foreign country that sees us divided,weak,broke, but sitting on a beautiful country and desides to make it theirs?
ReplyDeleteyou know that paranoid side of me born of chemical experimentation
ReplyDeleteas delved out in my college years believes that:
A: No dumb azz capable of crawling to whatever position of public office can look at an article like this and not cringe, unless it is part of some plot only James West could foil.
B: The illegals are laughing their way to the 2010 obamanation, Nancy Pelosi after all has declared all illegals as "Hero's", and "Patroit's"
C: This is a conspiracy theory unfolding.
D: Sad left wingers have not caught on all of this will be paid for with monopoly money. So when we are all standing in line at the bread bank we need to make sure which voters (lib's) who elected this mess we need to practice karate on.
I am sooo tired of Franco and his irritating stories.
ReplyDeleteThis is a nation of laws is it not?
They need to be able to go to college and if possible become citizens, thats what AMERICA is all about coming here to further yourself. LET THEM GO TO SCHOOL and at the same cost as out of state. LETS BE FAIR...GIVE THEM CITIZENSHIP TOO...
ReplyDeletewe will be fair when they come here legally you freaking idiot
ReplyDeleteAnonymous 2:21 has me wondering exactly a "good white European Latino" is. Is he white? Latino? Because frankly, it's one or the other.
ReplyDeletei think i will head to mexico for a few, burn my passport, sneak back into the united states of america and get some of these illegal benefits that this country is giving away or that i will be entitled to!
ReplyDeleteamazing invective directed at the writer for merely reporting on Harvard's president 's stance on providing education to undocumented aliens who apparently were smart enough to get into the esteemed University (a private university with billions in endowment by the way). They should be well equipped to lend a hand in the rebuilding of this nation's future.
ReplyDeleteFortunately for us the future belongs to the meritocracy and not the embittered bible thumping, gun owning, teabagging, FOX watching contingent who appear to be holding this blog commentary hostage.
Its funny, but the more Franco reports on illegal aliens (and I am sure he is trying to promote his people and causes) the more American citizens are angered and united in the fight against illegals. Thank you Franco for waking the sleeping giant.
ReplyDeleteFranco Ordoñez writes about immigration for the Charlotte Observer. BULLSHlT! The ONLY thing Franco does is support coddling illegal invaders in EVERY thing he writes. Kick this rabble rouser to the curb and STOP ENDORSING CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR!!!!
ReplyDeleteEnd the charades...first of all, colleges are businesses set to make money Does the term "non-profit" mean anything to you?
ReplyDeleteI bet you a quarter Franco don't even know or mingle with a mexican illegal or any other hispanic illegal. He just wants publicity by bringing pretty stupid and non-sense topics. He should become a Coyote and start smugling illegals to make more money which will probably make him happier.
ReplyDeleteHis lack of intelligence is shown by publishing articles like this. Why shold we train illegal when narco-Mexico in particular has lot of oil and other resources they can use for the benefit of their people. Where all that money is going? Franco, why are you so stupid wanting to waste your tax money, OUR TAX MONEY, in people that is breaking the law?
I dare you to get your checkbook and give $500 dollars to the first Illegal you see in th street.
You are not going to do it ¿verdad que no hipocrita?
So, STOP WHINING!
Franco is just an arrogant mama's boy like all rich hispanics that never struggled for anything. He is just trying to find an identity, his self by promoting rebelion thinking he is getting back at his parents for not supporting him anymore. I'm from Puerto Rico and I never expected to see this kind of behavior from people that should be grateful to this country for receiving them letting them enjoy a nice way of living.I'm sure he was very submisive and thanksful when he started his immigration paperwork to later becoming a monster by promoting actions that goes against US laws and are an insult for the american people who welcomed him with open arms.
ReplyDeleteShame on you Franco, you are a disgrace for legal hispanics for sure!
Most people around here call Harvard the Duke of the north because of academics. I think they should call it the peoples' republic of Chapel Hill because of their misguided leadership. Their endowment is at a recent time low and this person wants us to let in those poor illegals. I say sure let's add to our burden and let them in.
ReplyDeleteI always wonder if the Observer bloggers get paid by the comments left. If so, Franco must be rolling in dough!
ReplyDeleteHere is a fact no one, especially you Franco, has brought to light. Harvard is a private school, they charge everyone, no matter where you are from, the same tuition. Massachusetts residents are not getting any break going there, so why would anyone from Harvard's opinion matter on this topic. What is her motivation for wanting to flood the public schools with illegals?
And do you know why there is so much support for this bill? Because Corporate America has figured out that once the illegals get educated, they can be hired ahead of LEGAL CITIZENS that don't have degrees, and still be paid lower salaries. Another loophole for big business.
ReplyDeletehey! your grandfather or grand grand is from USA?
ReplyDeletedude, everybody here are inmigrants. Invasion? Read history as..le San Diego, Los Angeles, etc is that spanish names? From Mexico years ago? Who invaded?
The only reason that thereare laws making it illegal for them to come here is because unions and xenophobic people like you people pushed wimpy congressmen into passing silly arbitrary limits on immigration.
ReplyDeleteEver notice that the higher education centers tend to be liberal, and people with lower education tend to be conservative?
Think about that.
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ReplyDeleteAnonymous 2:21 has me wondering exactly a "good white European Latino" is. Is he white? Latino? Because frankly, it's one or the other.
May 29, 2009 4:14 PM
Unfortunately this is where people are very uninformed.
Columbus was a true white European Latino. The true Latino is caucasoid white from European Spain or Italy and a few more smaller nations in southern Europe.
Spanish is a white Euro language derivative of Latin the original Bible was written in under the Roman Empire of Constantine in the 3rd century AD.
Spain imported its tongue culture and christian religion to the new uncivilized western world 500 yrs ago and introduced it to the pagan ex-Asian mongoloid reds called aztecs aka indians myans amazons eskimos etc. who had crossed the Bering Strait thousands of yrs earlier and filtered downward up to 10k miles.
Spain forced the indians to speak European white Spanish language and learn its religion and culture etc. to become civilized and westernized.
Spain ruled 350 yrs and called it New Spain before 1821 when the Mexicans broke free although retained the white ruling class as its rulers.
All Spanish names architecture lifestyle culture civilization in Mexico, southwestern or western America or Central and South America are 100% European in origin. The pagan indian aztec tongue and culture was wiped out completely.
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ReplyDeletecarmen, are you talking to me???
ReplyDeletecarmen, what happend to your comment???
ReplyDeleteIt seems that anonymous has to much time on his hands to distill anger, ignorance, envy, racism, bigotry,etc, etc.
ReplyDeleteThe DREAM Act is a legislation that will provide professional, American educated human resources for the competitiveness of our Country.
The DREAM act has the support of Microsoft, the College Board, Mayor Bloomer and the movers and shakers of the future of this country.
The undocumented students fight for their education fiercely and they have the respect and admiration of real leaders.
I can go on an on describing the goodness of the undocumented students and this wonderful legislation but I have to go back to my work promoting a Robotics event that will have the participation of some of the best undocumented high schoolers in the nation....You read well anonymous: high schoolers that build robots and they are undocumented.
When anonymous can build his own robot by himself then I would consider to read more of his ugly rants.
Anonymous:
ReplyDeleteStart building your robot!
I have to go.... I need to work in advancing the cause of the students!
Why is the Charlotte Observer pushing illegal immigrant rights down our throat. Could it be "Ordoñez"? If Ordoñez or illegals want latino rights why don't they go home. I get tired of the Charlotte Observer doing this. Ordoñez should be fired. From his writings he seems to be racist and anti American.
ReplyDeletebet you won't see a taco truck at Harvard, no matter how much of the card carrying liberal label they use as a suppository
ReplyDeleteZendr: Feel free to let them rebuild YOUR new world but not mine!
ReplyDeleteJust like a bleeding heart liberal with no concept of right and wrong to want to "rebuild our nation's future" with a bunch of freakin criminals.
The jails are full of these type of people, so you don't need to import illegal criminals pal.
Plus Obama has filled all his cabinet criminal positions anyway
I cannot wait till this all finally hits the fan and I can "legally" get my hands on some of these liberals who are doing everything they can to throw and give away the country that our fore fathers fought and died for.
ReplyDeleteWhen they are beyond comprehending the basic concept of right and wrong it is time for a MAJOR attitude adjustment!
I find it amazing how I see this guy posting his pro-illegal stuff on the "front page" of the online Observer so often. They must really be behind this guy and his ideas.
ReplyDeleteAs a Legal Immigrant to this country, I'd feel angry if ILLEGAL immigrants gets same access as us because it means Gov't is rewarding bad behavior of people who skipped the line. My family applied for Asylum and did all the paper work required by the State Department and now as a College student, I'd definitely feel cheated if some border jumper gets the same access as those of us who did the right thing. This is why I'm a Conservative, I mean a common sense one because Liberals simply rubber stamp everything for the sake of being PC.
ReplyDeleteIf you could go back in time you would probably read the exact feelings of non-slave owners for the 200 yrs they brought Africa slaves to America in big numbers to take many millions of jobs from the working class whites of that bygone era.
ReplyDeleteOnly 1% of elites owned any quantity of these African slaves who turned the white working class into poverty jobless beggers as even sharecropping was not practiced until after the Lincoln war tha freed 4 million slaves in the south.
Technically 99% of the whites who didnt own slaves who werent killed in that war were probably glad for the ending of slavery if only because they could then get a job or sharecrop.
Mexican illegals who come here and steal jobs at cheaper wages or get govt freebies are probably hearing the same exact bitching today that working class whites bitched about during slavery.
You can hear the same whines. "Look at these lucky African slaves got it all made in the shade coming here with readymade jobs getting everything free while we have to have to live like dirt poor hungry packrats to feed our families and no jobs..." blah blah blah ...
Whining and bitching never changes...
Note that Harvard president Drew Faust has only said she would support the bill.
ReplyDeleteThat doesn't mean the bill will actually become law. The bill has a long long way to go, and the chances of it passing aren't very good at all.
Also note that there are no statements in this story by any elected officials.
Keep pouring gas on the hate fires, Franco. You do it so well.
Taxes are a hundred billion silent dollars a year, to underwrite the illegal impoverished immigrants in our nation.
ReplyDeleteWe must all support Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) E-Verify (R-NC) Phone; (256) 533-0979, Rep. Heath Shuler (D-NC ) Phone: (828)-252-1651;author of E-Verify and SAVE ACT, Nathan Deal (R-GA) (202) 225-5211; introduced the Birthright Citizenship Act of 2009 (H.R.1868) Rep. Paul Braun (R-GA) 706-447-3857; ,Kenny Marchant (R-TX) 972-556-0162; are also Sponsoring Birthright Citizenship Act to amend this misinterpreted law. Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN) (202) 225-2811 introduced, H.R. 2406, the Clear Law Enforcement for Criminal Alien Removal (CLEAR) Act of 2009. Reach all participants at: (202) 224-3121
Businesses pay--NOTHING--to the upkeep of the illegal alien occupancy of our country. NOTHING towards health care or Education. It's all free to illegal aliens, without paying a cent into the system. The free traders have also assisted in bringing total collapse to our wilting economy, as you read the frustrated expressions of jobless Americans. Looking through tired eyes they see the padlocked industries that have been producing "Made in the USA" products for generations, now standing silent and empty. All Americans and legal residents need to march on Washington, like Europeans. We need a million man march, except make it 5-10 perhaps in 30 million man march as the African Americans did and protest the travesties of of our constitutional rights, that are fading under liberal judges interpreting law from the bench. No more exporting of jobs, no importation of cheap labor--the devious agenda of free traders. If we carry on--as is--we will wind up with OVERPOPULATION, shortages of resources, energy and water.
The Inter-American Development Bank (IDB) says the flow of remittances to Latin America has doubled in the past four years, to an estimated $55 billion this year--and that's just Latin America? What about China and other foreign countries? The grand-slam example is the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC). Economics writer Ed Rubenstein’s new report, “The Earned Income Tax Credit and Illegal Immigration: A Study in Fraud, Abuse, and Liberal Activism,” The author says immigrants collected about $12 billion from the EITC last year, the majority not paying a cent towards it. Robert Rector of the Heritage Foundation found high school-dropouts-who headed households pay an average of $9,700 a year in taxes but collect an average of $32,138 a year in benefits. All this money in real dollars is procured from unaware taxpayers.
Jobless American workers should--REMOVE--Sen.Harry Reid, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, Sen. Chuck Schumer and others listed on NUMBERSUSA website as they are conspirators, to defund the border fence, weaken or kill E-Verify, SAVE ACT, police enforcement program (247(g), and the Real ID act. or push for another AMNESTY Read these legislator nefarious resumes on pandering to OPEN-BORDER ENTITIES. Learn the truth, not propaganda by the left at NUMBERSUSA.
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Illegal immigrants are stealing people's identities, ruining their credit, taking the identities of children, too. The ones not using a stolen SS number are not paying taxes. They take jobs and hold down wages in every industry they work. They have become an additional burden to social services, hospitals and our schools. When my parents came to this country from Greece, they did it *LEGALLY*. They had no Greek words plastered on everything and there aren't any special Greek classes in public schools. They had to learn English and they did. I am so tired of this country bending over backwards to make it easy for *illegal* immigrants to invade our country. Enough already. Enforce our laws!
ReplyDeleteThis US accepts more legal immigrants, every single year, than anyother country- 800,000 to 1,000,000.
We don't want legal immigration to stop. But, the overwhleming flood on *illegal* immigrants must stop.
We cannnot afford it, we can barely take care of our own citizens. People need to wake up, stop this insanity.
TWO LIVES, ONE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER
HIDDEN COST OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION: ID THEFT
ReplyDeleteIllegal immigrants are stealing people's identities, ruining their credit, taking the identities of children, too. The ones not using a stolen SS number are not paying taxes. They take jobs and hold down wages in every industry they work. They have become an additional burden to social services, hospitals and our schools. When my parents came to this country from Greece, they did it *LEGALLY*. They had no Greek words plastered on everything and there aren't any special Greek classes in public schools. They had to learn English and they did. I am so tired of this country bending over backwards to make it easy for *illegal* immigrants to invade our country. Enough already. Enforce our laws!
Every country has immigration laws; a lot of countries have much stricter laws and hasher consequences than we come close to. Our immigration laws are quite liberal in comparison to Mexico, Central and South American countries. Especially, our path to citizenship and what foreigners can own are much looser than many countries. I get so tired of the hypocritical blather that leaders of other countries spew against the US about our debate on *illegal* immigrants. It's ironic the massive amount of insults and criticisms hurled at the US, and yet so many are beating down our doors and dying to come here... year after year after year.
The US accepts more legal immigrants, every single year, than any other country- 800,000 to 1,000,000. We don't want legal immigration to stop. But, the overwhelming flood of *illegal* immigrants must stop. We cannot afford it; we can barely take care of our own citizens. People need to wake up, stop this insanity. Without *enforcing* our *laws* the situation has gotten out of control. Resentment and anger are resulting from this lack of enforcement and seemingly the government just ignoring the situation. The government's unwillingness to do its job is really responsible for the increasing backlash against illegal immigrants, which is spilling over to all immigrants in general. People want something done, they want the laws enforced. Or, they start getting angry, some even taking the law into their own hands. Because the government, local, state and federal have let things get this point, it is harder to fix. It's like many things the government does, ignore it until it becomes a looming disaster. Enforce our laws and enforce them now.
People's lives, US citizens' lives are being ruined and turned upside down because of this mess. Because- our government doesn’t want to upset those that are breaking the law or condone such activity. Think about that for a minute. It's a ludicrous situation and simply is *not* right. Powerful business interests love the cheap labor and Democrats love the idea of future voters, since the majority of Hispanics typically vote for a Democrat. Enough is enough.
The articles below are just the tip of the iceberg. It's past time to do the right thing, and the right thing is to enforce the laws of this country. Enforce our laws!
TWO LIVES, ONE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER
HIDDEN COST OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION: ID THEFT
Her ATM card, illegal immigrant's face
The secret list of ID theft victims
Bright students should go to college. Illegals or legals it doesn't matter.
ReplyDeleteIs your daughter,son or grandchild attending college? Ah, ha!
No further comments. PERIOD!
Harvard doesn't have to worry about illegal immigrants applying to their school, so why would they care?
ReplyDeleteMost illegal immigrants will be applying at the lower-tier, state supported community colleges without huge endowments, not Harvard.
If they get ONE illegal applicant at Harvard, they'll parade her around like a pinata...
The High-Spanics who can get into Harvard can apply directly from their mansions in Mexico.
ReplyDeleteI believe that US citizens are afraid of competition because if Immigrants are accepted to college, they will do their best since they know the meaning of sacrifice. Sorry Americans, but you need to learn about sacrifice, and hard work.
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