Friday, December 4, 2009

Enforcement advocate drops Dobbs

A N.C. immigration enforcement group has withdrawn its support for Lou Dobbs and suspended its website calling on Dobbs to run for President. Americans for Legal Immigration PAC announced yesterday they're responding to membership angered over Dobb’s about-face on immigration issues.

Once one of the staunchest anti-illegal immigration advocates, the former CNN anchor angered supporters when he told Spanish-language network Telemundo that he now supports a plan to legalize millions of undocumented workers. He long called these programs an unfair "amnesty."

Dobbs is reportedly considering a run for Senate or possibly even President. He seemed to be trying to change his image as an enemy of Latino immigrants by re-positioning himself as a champion of one of their main causes. Both sides of the debate doubted his sincerity.

"While Mr. Dobbs claims his positions have not changed, however, that is not the perception of many of our mutual supporters," said William Gheen of ALIPAC, which opposes giving illegal immigrants a path to citizenship. "His recent comments on Telemundo and his national radio show supporting some kind of path to citizenship for illegal immigrants is inconsistent with positions of ALIPAC and the views of most American citizens."

ALIPAC officials say they circulated the video of the entire Lou Dobbs interview on Telemundo to over 30,000 national supporters. Gheen said internal polling showed that over 70 percent of the group’s supporters were upset with Dobbs's comments in support of legalizing illegal immigrants. ALIPAC opposes any path to citizenship form of Amnesty for illegal aliens

ALIPAC created the website. The group says it was the first national organization to call on Dobbs to run for President. Gheen was invited on Dobbs show to speak about the effort.

"We've received so many demands from prior Dobbs supporters to remove their pledges of support that we have to suspend all operations on the Dobbs fan sites," said Gheen. "Lou Dobbs has deeply offended his base of supporters and ALIPAC is going to remain loyal to those Americans who support our existing immigration laws instead of Amnesty disguised as reform."


zeezil said...

Not surprising after Dobbs has compromised his principles in order to run for political office.

Good for Lou said...

Amnesty is more realistic than mass-deportation.

Anyone who thinks the displacement of millions is a pragmatic and financially feasible solution needs to get their head checked.

Peregrino said...

People who buy into phony millionaire populists like Dobbs and Beck deserve what they get. These Lonesome Roads wannabes will say whatever it takes to get a reliable market share in the segmented cable market. Hate-mongering will always find an audience, and the fearful are always looking for a leader.
Lou Dobbs is no more a classless opportunist now than he was when he was advocating the sort of hatred ALIPAC was formed to foment. The only thing that has changed is that someone left the mike open when he was laughing at his sheep.

Brittanicus said...

Laws to do with apprehension of illegal immigrants have always been compromised? Anything that really works is immediately attacked by the open border organization, in a silent conspiracy with both political parties. We the American people--the taxpayer have to always ultimately grin and bare it? We just pay out the money in copious taxes to the federal agency that delivers welfare benefits, to those who slip past the border guards.

Our prisons are full, jails-- in 6-figure numbers of illegal people, along with a growing trend passed on to every foreign pregnant woman, that if they can bypass the sentinels along the border their babies are instant citizens. By delivering a baby here they can instantly if indirectly get food stamps, low income housing and many more birthright citizenship entitlements. This of course is a rampantly out-of-control recital that happens over and over again in the Sanctuary State of California. For a nation that has stepped on the moon, found the HMS Titanic in a huge expense of water, but--they are unable to deport the millions of people, who illegally settled here? That any tourist can enter America and overstay their visa by bluffing the ICE agent? That we trust these parties to leave of their own accord when their visa time expires, even though that there is nothing to verify their departure? It really sad that Americans swallow the garbage we are fed from Washington. Now they--REALLY--expect us to believe of enacting a Comprehensive Immigration Reform that is reportedly said to be good for the economy?

There are so many men and women jobless, with many living without hope. Penniless and so desperate they are going to food pantries and waiting for their unemployment benefits to run out. This is insane, absolutely outrageous and everyday more and more American Workers are losing their jobs to illegal laborers who take fewer wage. Trying to pass any kind of immigration reform stands on the very edge of madness? In the depth of a major recession they have the audacity to enact another BLANKET AMNESTY, and then we should call our reluctant Senators and Representatives to vote for The SAVE Act (H.R.3308) This is a composite of all intelligent immigration enforcement that propels Americans citizens and legalized newcomers first and always to vacated jobs? It contains E-Verify as a permanent addition of which The SAVE Act has received its 100th cosponsor, that being Rep. Michael Turner (R-Ohio) who added his name to the long list.

Brittanicus said...

The SAVE Act (H.R.3308) would use currently available tools and resources to increase interior enforcement of federal immigration laws. The SAVE ACT would make E-Verify mandatory for all employers, increase monitoring of compliance of the E-Verify screening, require notification of identity theft; and the requirement of information sharing between the Social Security Administration, Department of Homeland Security and the Internal Revenue Service. Also increasing interior enforcement, the SAVE Act would, add more ICE agents and increase funding to state, county and local law enforcement and expedite the deportation procedure by increasing detention capacity and the number of immigration judges. In addition Homeland Security has announced that it will be adding a new verification feature to the E-Verify Photo Tool this month to address employee privacy concerns?

Currently an employee’s photo document is displayed on the E-Verify computer screen. At present, the photo screening tool will only “function” when an employee presents a recent version of a permanent resident card (I-551) or employment authorization document (EAD) as proof of employment authorization. A new security feature will add a watermark across the image that when viewed says “E-Verify Use Only”. This is to prevent unauthorized use or fraudulent manipulation of government-issued ID photograph. This will lessen any critic’s issue, to stop the griping and entertain .another court case? E-verify has the capability now to identify illegal immigrants using phony driver’s licenses and many other procured American entitlements. It could also halt the growing document fraud, Medi-care and state medical care unauthorized use. E-Verify have exclusive possibilities to achieve not only illegal entrants from employer’s headaches, but can identify bogus auto registration, child support and even unlawful section 8 and other subsidies.

So get on the phone and demand as a voter for your lawmaker to vote for THE SAVE ACT (H.R. 3308) and be relentless. The number to call is 202-224-3121. Also bombard the House-Senate policy makers with 28 cent postcards, to stop the open border organizations from engineering another Path to citizenship or AMNESTY. Tell them to amend the 1986 Immigration Reform Act, not another facade that was a bloated with fraud. Understand that THE SAVE ACT will protect American jobs and remove illegal immigrants from working locations over time. Those who believe in America’s survival, without OVERPOPULATION as stated by the US Census bureau better read the facts, not the lies at NUMBERSUSA. Those who want details of corruption in WASHINGTON and state government go to JUDICIAL WATCH. For Overpopulation statistics, should go to CAPSWEB. Other sites of interest on Immigration enforcement is ALIPAC and AMERICAN PATROL.

Anonymous said...

I guess Brittanicus didn't get the "no spam" message--or is this just another example of a neocon being exempt from the rules?

Heath Shuler's slavish membership in the C-Street Family puts into perspective any House Bill that he "sponsors".

Anonymous said...

LOL ^^^

Anonymous said...


Some "illegals," as I'm sure you like to call them, actually pay income taxes. That's why the IRS allows the use of a Taxpayer Identification Number in lieu of a Social Security Number. Likewise, nobody can avoid paying sales tax, and property taxes are difficult to ignore.

I just poked a big hole in your whiney argument.

Anonymous said...

Wetbacks go home.

Anonymous said...

We hate the south charlotte whites who think they can control us. We have our babies here and we work here so there is nothing you can do about it. Geoge Bush is gone and his crimes will not be forgotten with latinos. Now the rich will have to pay instead of trying to make us pay. We came here looking for work, so you cant send us back. Now our children are born here. Lou Dobbs is the devil.

Anonymous said...

Nationwide assaults spreading against whites and reds.

zeezil said...

PART 1: For ANONYMOUS WHO chortled about how illegal aliens are OK because they pay taxes:


Your U.S. Congress participates in and supports one of THE most fraudulent taxpayer abuse schemes ever concocted within the Federal Government. It’s time the administration put its foot down rather than allow millions of unlawful immigrants to step onto American soil—while soaking billions out of the U.S. Treasury.

Since the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) became part of the income tax code in 1975, it has quietly become the largest cash transfer program in the United States. At a cost of more than $44 billion per year, EITC spending dwarfs that of the traditional welfare program—Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF)—and food stamps combined. More than 23 million households currently receive the credit.

Edwin Rubenstein exposed one of the most dramatic tax frauds ever on the American taxpayer: “Defrauding the American taxpayer,” Volume 19, Number 3, spring 2009,, “The Earned Income Tax Credit and Illegal Immigration - A Study in Fraud, Abuse, and Liberal Activism.”

“From 1985 to 2006, EITC payments grew from $2.1 billion to $44.4 billion, or by an eye-popping 2,014 percent,” Rubenstein said. “Total federal income tax revenues rose by 217 percent over that same period. Similarly, the number of returns claiming the EITC rose from 6.4 million to 23 million—an increase of 255 percent—over a perperiod when the total number of federal income tax returns increased by 36 percent.

“More than one in four immigrant households received the EITC in 2000—nearly twice the 13.2 percent rate of houuseholds headed by Native Americans. And because immigrant households are larger via higher fertility, their EITC payments are larger than those received by native households.

“Bottom line: Immigrants accounted for about 13 percent of the U.S. population in 2008 but receive an estimated 26 percent of EITC benefits—about $12 billion.”

The most distressing aspect of EITC stems from unlawful immigrants tapping into the program on a massive scale. For example, in Greeley, Colorado this year, district attorney Buck Young raided a tax filing agency to find over 1,000 fraudulent returns by unlawful workers. While they paid little or nothing in taxes, they received hundreds of thousands in bogus returns. That same scam multiplies all over the country.

“Tax relief" goes to people who never paid a cent in taxes, and may have already defrauded the government of huge sums each year. "EITC scams are common, well-organized, and massive," Rubenstein writes in the report. EITC ranks second out of 57 government programs in fraudulent payments.

“But enthusiasm for the credit has blinded policy makers to its problems. The EITC program is dominated by fraud. Year after year about one-third of all EITC returns are based on illegal multiple returns, phony Social Security numbers, or claims of non-existent children or spouses. A disproportionate share of illegal alien households receives the benefit.

“Washington’s love affair with the EITC has allowed the minimum wage to decline in real value. Native workers have suffered as a result. So have labor unions. In effect, the EITC subsidizes employers who hire low-wage immigrants and reject equally qualified natives. No one should be surprised; therefore, that Wal-mart, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, and most liberal activist groups are major EITC supporters.

zeezil said...

PART 2: For ANONYMOUS who chortled about how illegal aliens are OK because they pay taxes:

“For most poor families, the tax credit check is the largest single sum of money they will receive during the year. Most receive it after filing income taxes. But some need the money immediately, and they can get it—for a price. A niche financial sector thrives by leending EITC recipients immediate cash in return for a hefty chunk of their credit check. The cost to the poor of these so-called Refund Anticipation Loans (RALs) has been estimated at 6 percent of the entire EITC program.

“Widespread availability of high-interest RALs made poor borrowers easy marks for sub-prime mortgage hucksters. The resulting defaults have pushed the entire economy to the brink of collapse. While the sub-prime story is well known, few are aware of the EITC’s role in introducing the poor to the culture of debt.”

Has the EITC lived up to its hype? In answering this, consider the following:

The EITC originated as an anti-poverty program; the number of the returns claiming EITC benefits rose 25 times faster than the poverty population over the past two decades.

EITC benefits rise sharply with parenthood; poverty rates for families with children have risen faster than those for childless families since the credit was created.

The EITC is the most illegal-immigrant friendly of poverty programs; illegal immigrants constitute a far larger share of the poverty population now.

Implication: The EITC is a textbook case of unintended consequences. Our economic meltdown may be among them.

“The current federal EITC provides large benefits to families with children, mostly single mothers, and minimal benefits to singles, even though declining wages have affected all low-income workers. These disparities create disincentives to work in the formal labor market and for poor men and women to marry, cohabitate, and co-parent,” said Rubenstein. “President Obama’s stimulus package increased EITC payments by $600 for poor families with three or more children, while leaving the program’s perverse disincentives intact. This will merely exacerbate the credit’s bias against work and marriage.”

"The Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) is the largest anti-poverty program in the United States - and the most illegal-immigrant friendly," explains Edwin Rubenstein, author of the new report. "In 2007, more than 23 million households received more than $47 billion in the EITC payments."

Finally, “The EITC is the most accessible of the major entitlement programs and used by more people than food stamps and welfare (TANF)* combined. A related tax credit, the Additional Child Tax Credit (ACTC) is available to illegal immigrants even if they do not have a valid Social Security number.”